5,000 join call for north of England to join Scotland

NEW BORDER ... how the 'new Scotland' could look - the new border is in red.


More than 5,000 people have signed a petition calling for the north of England to ‘secede from the UK and join Scotland’.

A total of 5,396 people have signed a petition on Change.org in support of the north of England joining Scotland and ‘regaining control over its own destiny’.

Despite being created a year ago, during the throes of the Scottish independence campaign, the petition attracted a number of signatures following the Conservative Party’s win in last week’s general election.

The petition states:

“The deliberations in Westminster are becoming increasingly irrelevant to the north of England.

 “The northern cities feel far greater affinity with their Scottish counterparts such as Glasgow and Edinburgh than with the ideologies of the London-centric south.

“The needs and challenges of the north cannot be understood by the endless parade of old Etonians lining the front benches of the House of Commons.

“We, the people of the north, demand that in the event that Scotland becomes independent, the border between England and the New Scotland be drawn along a line that runs between the River Dee and the mouth of The Humber.”

The border between a ‘new Scotland’ and England would see everywhere north of Sheffield joining the newly-created country.

One supporter added:

“I have more in common with the Scots, than the Etonian-led Southerners who do not care what happens in the North.”

Another pointed out that the petition could bring up the topic of increased Northern representation.

Despite being closed, the petition is still gathering signatures since last Thursday’s vote, partly thanks to the #TakeUsWithYouScotland hashtag on Twitter.

Source – Hartlepool Mail, 12 May 2015


  1. Chris

    Er what we can do is apply for a referendum to become devolved to Edinburgh’s parliament and be ruled by Ms Sturgeon, that is an anti austerity party.

    Leaving the rich in London to live in a city of overgrown gardens and derelict wealthy homes, bought by foreign investors and then left to rot. A perfect home for squatting rats, the size of Terrier dogs these days, immune to rat poison.

    I have every intention, once gathered sufficient signatures to me petition, to ask the support of Ms Sturgeon and the SNPs’
    56 MPs to get the Scots a state pension, because the flat rate pension denies any state pension to all but those in Ulster (fortunately have to pass such law which they won’t), which is vital food and fuel money for the over 60s.


    We need to innudate London’s UK parliament with anti austerity petitions, signed in huge numbers any and ALL such petitions on 38 Degrees, whether it effects you direct or indirect, all ages.

    I’ve tried to start to gather together other state pension petitions on me little website scattered about 38 Degrees:

    40 per cent of over 50s are disabled / chronic sick, and the raised retirement age means we are as equally hit by welfare reform aka abolition, bedroom tax, council tax support cuts and housing benefit caps, then we are all in the same boat.

    Over half of the over 60s are within the working poor.

    Ms Altmann is already facing one big petition already in UK parliament just as it was dissolved, and still growing until
    UK parliament is formally put in place, against women’s raised retirement age.

    Ms Altmann did say in the past that the housewife state pension, for ladies with no other money in old age, should not be cut.

    Well the flat rate pension does just that from 2016 for new pensioners.

    We are the worse off pensioners for 3 generations and as bad off as before the state pension was brought into being.
    I am worse off than my grandmother for the first time since the 1950s.


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